The first few stimuli kept repeating in the inner loop

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I have 2 types of stimuli (i.e. Stimuli A and Stimuli B) for 2 decision tasks. There are 200 Stimuli A and 20 Stimuli B. I have made two loops so that 1 stimuli B (random) can appear after every 10 stimuli A (sequential). I added the code:
myCount = 0
myCount = myCount + 1
if myCount%10==0 and myCount>0:
Loop1.finished = True
However, the first 10 stimuli kept repeating without progressing to the next 10 stimuli. How can I fix the code so that the whole list of stimuli can be presented?

2

Hello,
Can you show us the flow of your experiment?
I don’t understand the whole picture.

Thanks.

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Thank you so much for your reply! I want to present 1 trial_2 item after every 10 trial_1 item (sequentially). But now only first 10 items kept repeating in the first loop. Is there any way to present the whole list in this design?

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Can you please share the properties/settings of Loop1 and Loop2?

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Loop2
Loop2996×772 14 KB

Loop1
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In Loop1, I add a code in the trial_1 so that the routine will continue after 10 stimuli:
myCount = 0
myCount = myCount + 1
if myCount%10==0 and myCount>0:
Loop1.finished = True

6

I see the problem.
The loop doesn’t have any indication to start from a row other than the first one.
Did you try modifying the Selected rows option?
For example, something like that might work:

# Selected rows (inside the Loop1 properties):
$Loop1.thisN + Loop2.thisN * 9

# Selected rows (inside the Loop2 properties):
$Loop2.thisN + Loop2.thisN * 2

You probably need to modify the nReps and change the calculation of the selected rows, but it should give you a solid direction to the solution.
Let me know if you need more help :slight_smile:

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Thank you so much for your help!! Let me try to modify it now.

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There is an error when I sync it to the palvolvia:
“TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘thisN’)”

thisN seems does not work in palvlovia

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On which version of PsychoPy are you working?
The same thing happened to another user today:

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Hi

trials.thisN worked with 2022.2.4 which I have installed.

Best wishes Jens

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I am using 2021.2.3 version of Psychopy. I used the latest version 2023.1.1 to build the experiment before, but it was unstable and caused some errors in palvlovia. The older version seems to be more promising.

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Thank you so much, Jens! I will install the 2022.2.4 version.

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There is an easy workaround around it. I also mentioned it in the other thread:
What you can do is create a new variable that is equal to 0. Then each time the routine start/end, increase this variable by one. It works the same as thisN.

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I used 2022.2.4 version but there is still an error in palvlovia TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘thisN’)

Regarding creating a new variable, should I insert the code in trial_1? I am not sure how to work on it.

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Hey @wakecarter , do you know if the thisN work on this version?
Thanks

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Yes. According to my crib sheet it works from 2021.2

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I tried to put the string $Loop1.thisN + Loop2.thisN * 9 in ‘selected row’ option of Loop 1, but there was TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘thisN’) in palvlovia. Does it mean that I did not define this variable in the JS code?

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Loop1.thisN doesn’t have a value in the definition of Loop1

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Thank you so much! My intended flow is:

Stimuli A: 0-9 (loop1)
Stimuli B: random 1 (loop2)
Stimuli A: 10-19 (loop1)
Stimuli B: random 1 (loop2)
Stimuli A: 20-29 (loop1)
Stimuli B: random 1 (loop2)

I have never tried to modify Selected rows options before, so I am not quite sure how I should modify to get what I want.

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Have you put 3 reps for loop1?

Put 1 rep for loop1 and add an outer loop0 which sets the nReps for loop1